Thank you very much.

Yeah, we are translating this into Japanese. And also, we will have a conference in July, including the plurality Tokyo. So, I want to invite you.

Other infrastructure.

In Japan, municipalities have to implement… That is one of the problems.

But municipalities don’t need to build such kind of systems.

Wow. Japan doesn’t have that.

Oh, I understand. Thank you. So, by the way, do you have the government have the phone number of the citizens? Do you send? Do they send this?

I feel like the theory is correct, but in reality I often explain the how the efficiency the new system compare of the old system. I feel sometimes it’s hard to design a system you are procuring because local IT vendors don’t want to do that and back up that ...

Okay, so other people who have questions?

So, I want to think more collaborative way of having the Hackathon together or something.

Actually, Code for Japan won the public bidding of Tokyo Metropolitan Government for operating next year for Hackathon…

I introduced the Presidential Hackathon to Tokyo Metropolitan Government, right? And now there is a conversation between Tokyo, right? And maybe how much can join to that hackathon? I think it would be nice to think about that.

You mentioned international in the beginning of this meeting. So, how do you see the international collaboration with such kind of digital ID world also?

Yeah, I totally agree. I feel that Taiwan is kind of the epicenter of the new movement of plurality and also Web3. How to use that Web3 technology for social good? Not just making money.

So, how do you see the recent civic tech activity in Taiwan? In Japan, the kind of new generation started new things, like Web 3 View. So, I think we are, I feel, I am a bridge to the next generation, and creating opportunity to work with many different people ...

Wow. I have many questions, but I want to share the opportunity for them to ask their questions.

So, I think utilizing open-source software efficiently, you need kind of the inside stuff to manage. But I, procuring IT that, so such kind of developers, high quality developers inside the government is very, very difficult, I think. So, how do you manage this kind of data, open-source code, and ...

Okay. So, municipalities can understand that?

So, it is very difficult to… it makes very difficult as the data exchanging system. And also, it is difficult to force to use one system for every government. So, every local government is different. And so, your idea, I think you mentioned open data, open source software. So, you ...

Cool, cool. I have some questions about data sharing between the municipal offices and national level. So, in Japan, it is very headache program. Japanese government level and municipal level have different groups and different data structure. And it also prohibits to share the citizens’ personal data to national level.

Yeah, she’s now working for Code for Japan. She is ex-Yokohama city’s officer. And right now, she’s working on government field. Yeah, have some vision.

Maybe, quickly introduce… very briefly introduce all of this. And, after that, maybe, I want to know your opinion first.

Yeah, and also, I’m really interested in the civic tech things here. Yeah, and, also, I think the people are familiar with the Smart City and he’s from the Hamamatsu City. So, I want to talk about the cooperation between Japan and Taiwan, and also Hamamatsu and Taiwan. So, such ...

So, I want to share something from Japan’s side. Especially after COVID-19, many things happened. And, also, I wanted to know about the latest situation about the government policy. Especially digital policy. Like, I’ve heard something, DID-related work from Mashbean (Huang, Yen-Ling).

UD Talk, yes. Yeah, so, yeah, I, today, this delegation has been attending the Smart City Summit and visiting many different institutions. And, yeah, I don’t want to make this meeting too formal. I wanted to… just catching up with this institution in Taiwan now.

Thank you for inviting us to this office. I think you must be busy right now. But, yeah, so today, can we use this?

Thank you. Bye.

Such culture links diverse community, and it’s sometimes the nature or sometimes the traditional festivals, and sometimes food culture and musics. Multi-layered culture is a good clue to get it together. Thank you very much.

Sometimes old people get it together, and communicate with newcomers matter. Old people know what is the best timing for the fruits, and the new people know various way of cooking and they gather together and co-created new and delicious warmth.

Great. Thank you very much. Utilizing the mark today of culture is a brilliant idea. We’re also developing life-long learning in rural areas concerning the moving bookshelves. You already say food culture.

That’s my question. Sorry.

On the other hand, how do you include such the people who don’t want to collaborate together or to participate together and/or lack of motivation to develop a new democracy?

Many people thinking about, the late majority also laggard, something we should include such kind of people. Just start cutting-edge project from the innovators, early adopters. It’s perfect and essential.

Thank you very much for your great practice. I believe your practice is a great. Also, the most important is just empower innovators and the early adopters. From perspective, social marketing, it’s an optimal way to spread the new idea forward. On the other hand, in Japan, especially in Japan, ...

I have a question to Beth. The difficult point is, public officials are too busy to learn this kind of new things. They are not fueled to try but they learned. The government give official support for the learners or some mandatory things to learn new things?

Not only teach, also we work with them and solve their local programs because they have no time to only learn new things. They have to solve their programs so that we work with them and try to solve the small program with them using the data visualization or using ...

Yeah. The teaching is really important. We have the workshops for the local government officials called Data Academy and GovTech Academy. We have similar program. We have a series of workshops for the local officials, invite them, and teach them.

After they realized that kind of collaborations, their mind became open. It’s important to create such kind of the field to work with the seasons, and not only just discussion.

For example, Tokyo Metropolitan Government recently organized the hackathon and invite local government officials, developers, and also the students. I see the people inside the government realized some of the students intend to work and make a city better place.

I agree that the working together is important to cultivate the trust with the people and government of shells. I often suggest the local governments who have field to work together with the students.

Sorry. Good morning. I am Hal Seki from Code for Japan. I’m the founder of Code for Japan. Code for Japan is a nonprofit foundation for facilitating the speak tech activities in Japan. Also, I’m working for the Digital Agency Japan as a project manager of civi tech activities. Thank ...

Thank you.

It’s not on tech first. It’s people first. Who are we serving? What issue are we tackling? We say this in Code for Japan that we think together and create together so that technology comes together with people.

If we found solutions in technology, we would do that. In that way, we would build trust and build something that actually people use. We started doing that from around four years ago when we realized that has become an issue.

However, we realized that that wouldn’t work on the ground. If you want to engage more people, for example, people in the government aren’t really around tech. They have an issue more. Not that they want to use open data. We stepped back and said, “What do we want to ...

With Code for Japan, we had that same issue, like words like open data or civic tech was new. Also, it didn’t sound very human. Because we are good with data or good with technology, we tend to want to solve everything in technology or with technology.

My Number card is used by really few people currently. We have to think of how to communicate the benefits of data being used in a civic way and with transparency so that we can reap the benefits of data together.

If you have the control to opt in or opt out of these services, that does benefit to you. From the discussion today, in Japan, there has been this My Number card, which is around your identity and technology. If we could engage more people to participate in this movement, ...

Through that, however, with this COVID-19 situation, people have realized that your personal information or privacy can be coupled well and work well with public health. For example, GPS tracking apps that would tell you that you might have been in contact with someone that has COVID-19. Your data can ...

Because what I see in Japan is that personal information should be protected. It’s coupled with the notion of fear. If it’s not protected, it’s a problem. Or, if it’s not protected, it’s going to be abused. This notion of personal information and fear is really tied in.