Yeah. Do you have a personal vision on the cross-straits relationship and Taiwan’s identity, Taiwan’s status?

Ah, the local ones, not the…

Recently?

With the government?

Yeah, but the questions remain. The Peoples Republic is not…No one there is accountable. On that topic, which is one of the most important for Taiwan, and the Taiwanese cannot go through this process.

The point is that Taiwan has actually relationships. Non-accountable, nondemocratic regimes exist and Taiwan has important relationships towards those kinds of regime. You’re saying that those relationships cannot go through this process?

What if the government – Taiwan’s government – wants to do it?

Hmm.

You’ve done this because you’ve received an invitation from the…

Have you done the same concerning the Peoples Republic of China or not, for example, economic relations with them?

You’re telling me that it’s not appropriate to do the same thing around cross-strait relationship as a general concept?

For example, where people do agree on this topic?

Sorry, AIT?

So it has to be like if you want to talk about the cross-strait relationships, it has to be in a specific case, for example like trade deals or…?

We can talk about the important issues…

Would you use this process to decide, for example, if Taiwan should unify with the PRC or not?

I was more concrete, for example…You probably recognize that so far, your views, those participative process in not in the most important laws or the basis of identity of Taiwan, for example.

Yes, that’s what politicians – good politicians – always did, right?

Can you elaborate?

Politicians can be advocates.

Aren’t there any circumstances where a good politician should, how do I say, push people in a direction they don’t see?

Do you see this process becoming the standard process in democracies?

If it’s only that…

Ah, OK.

Bits?

Three bits?

Is politics also a specific knowledge and skills? My question is, should we expect that all the people, all the citizen, participate in this process, or should we keep some people doing the politicians’ work?

Everyone has his own specifical knowledge and skills.

No, I’m not talking about instruments. I’m talking about activities. Like a doctor, for example.

In modern societies, there’s this thing. We call it…I don’t know if the term is right in English, but division of work. Some people do furniture because they’re good at doing furniture. I do the journalist because I studied to do that and I’m going to do that. You do ...

At the first stage, it’s about bringing the ideas together.

…but you have to take care of accountability.

You think at the later stage, it’s more about representative power…

We live in representative democracies. It’s not only about democracy. It’s also about representation, right? You pick some representatives for you when you vote. In some ways, you entrust them to act on your behalf.

KYC…

…document?

Here in Taiwan, when you take a SIM card, you have to provide a…

With a phone.

To register to contribute, you have…

…pseudonymous on this platform?

Yes. I agree. You allow people to be not anonymous but…

We can say it’s about institutions’ legitimacy.

Sorry, who posted this proposal?

Sorry, say again?

Is there an evidence that those systems, those methods, of participative democracy are improving the level of – how can I call it…satisfaction, or legitimacy – of the system, of the institutions here?

You said also those sandbox you were talking about are initiated – or some of them or most.

…and car-sharing?

The e-scooter…

I’ve read about some laws that have been initiated on this platform.

Yes.