Yes.
It’s really, yeah…
Thank you so much.
Yeah, they’ve invited us…
What is the name? I’m sorry.
Yes, this is an issue of timing. Great. How do we make it affordable?
For us, this is really crucial. This is very hopeful, I think, to think about other access, whether that’s digital like satellite we haven’t considered. We’re very much thinking about WiFi as the only way, but, yes, this will actually…
The real-time, how do we make sure that we have real-time solutions to things that might be really risky for workers? Whether it’s health and safety, whether it’s issues of health, whether it’s issues of not having breaks after so many hours, because we know that happens. When there is ...
That will be great. For freedom of association, this is quite an important part. At the end, you want to discuss violations of rights. We need to make sure that communication is also protected from surveillance. Otherwise, there is repression and see that we can intervene in real time.
I’m thinking for migrant workers, if they’re going to be communicating with their union or like human rights organizations, do you have some suggestions on how we could put together a training package or a workshop for migrant fishers to make sure that they are using WiFi in the safest ...
Just about the issue of safe and secure WiFi. For example, when I use my phone for human rights purposes, I have to use Signal or Telegram or something like that.
I wanted to ask you, but did you have another point?
You already need to…
Yes. We really work together to make this thing happen. Maybe not in a long time, we can make this thing happen with your support, too.
And with us.
We think that is not enough for them to communicate with their family. Right now, we are collecting the survey and also petition from the fishers because we want to know their needs. We want to know how this WiFi could help them to communicate with their family back home…
Before we start all of this thing, we conducted the initial survey about how many vessels have already installed WiFi, and it’s only 45 percent of vessels in Kaohsiung Port. In Nan Kan Nan there is no vessel that has installed WiFi. If they already installed WiFi, it’s also limited ...
Father, maybe you can talk about the surveys that we’ve been doing around the need for WiFi because maybe, Priscilla, all your amazing work can be shared.
I love that. There will be more empathy.
Regardless of what?
That’s very interesting.
Again, we’re not assuming this is happening in Taiwan. We just know that to be true in the industry, in general. All of these mechanisms of making sure that the union or Stella Maris has to make sure that everybody has an ability to connect. That would be such an ...
…at least one worker’s representative. If there is a need for communication around abuses, or around health, or around things that we are advocating for, then that could be the structure because we really care about the structure of workers being able to protect themselves from retaliation.
The role of the union would also be helpful to make sure that every vessel has…
Is there a service fee for that, or…?
That’s very helpful for the…
What would be the cost?
Just so I’m trying to understand. This means a new type of phone so that it would require workers to buy a new…
That’s already…
Do they ever…
In the practice, yeah. We don’t want subsidies that don’t trickle all the way down and all the way up.
It’s just for captains.
Thank you for mentioning that, that we can maybe reach out to this minister now.
Also family welfare, family health in terms of these connective tissues that we believe are just going to happen without talking to somebody for a year. This is very essential. We are thinking about reaching out to supporters of mental health, family welfare, because we believe there is also an ...
…increasing the issue of mental health, especially in young people, especially on isolated workers that can’t be outside or whatever. We do believe mental health is one of the things we have been discussing here very openly.
…through COVID has been…
Also isolation I think. In countries in which we live and/or are working, the issue of isolation through COVID…
I do think your support of this and what you’re saying, it’s quite a refreshing conversation because you get it completely. That’s fantastic.
How do we make sure that all those rights – healthcare, mental health, access to labor, worker rights organizations, human rights organizations, and mainly their children and family – how does that look?
We also don’t want to just be part of the technical part. We also have to think about it from the users, like what is the best thing at the vessel level, which is, again, how do workers have that capacity. To us, it would be a fantastic thing to ...
That is not necessarily low-end productivity, but it’s actually working in a way that is helpful to everybody, etc.
It’s also going to enforce the ability of the right for workers to access the WiFi on the vessels that may have the WiFi. There is a sense that workers should have the ability, like a safe circle community model, that they are also making sure that even women will ...
Of course, the idea of inclusivity and who has a right to be included, I do think it’s part of our democracy. At the same time, having access to all these services, but also access to a minimum infrastructure is precisely what this company is about. Also, the fact that ...
Let us know if there’s anything that we can put together for them. We also, of course, have our legal team within our organization. Any presentation or briefing paper, anything that we can put together to make the case in a legal way for why the fishing sector is a ...
Who did you say you have to convince to shift allocation of those funds?
The research is being conducted by your ministry?
It’s not an attack on the industry. This is an invitation to do the right thing with us.
These questions are really important to us, and we’re really at the beginning. We haven’t even gone public already. We’re doing consultations to understand what does this campaign look like? How do we tone it in a way that is very open to logistical and practical solutions? That’s what we ...
Especially the multinational team in global north countries that are also part of our value chain. We’re not just putting the responsibility on Taiwan. I think we globally also need to make sure that this is a conversation all the way up.
To be fair, we also need to outreach to the end users. Like we said, what is it that they can contribute as well, right?
