Thank you very much.

I’ll definitely contact you, yeah.

Thank you very much.

Fantastic, yeah. I’ll look forward to that. Thank you.

I’ll look out for that. I’ll watch online.

That’s great. Are you going to be doing any speeches or anything like that?

Exactly.

What’s the point of having a…

That is one of the reasons why youth are disenfranchised by the whole policy and the whole process as well. Although they are voicing, they’re here, they don’t get to hear.

We need these in the high-level events where there’s so many discussions going on. Often, you get the same conclusion, but in order to get that conclusion, you had so many great ideas which, because they’re not physically agreed upon or no one’s really jumping onto the idea, then they’re ...

Through this, you’re really getting every single person’s input. Do you have anything online for people to contribute?

…who aren’t contributing to the policy or any of the community discussions even. You see the people making the policies aren’t really representative of the public who will be really affected by the policies.

…including everyone who is often forgotten. Especially in these climate change debates, there’s always these people who are disenfranchised, marginalized groups…

That’s really great. You’ve literally thought of…

Oh, wow. [laughs] That’s so fun.

100 percent I would love to read that.

That’s fantastic.

I was going to say it’s so hard to match community and researchers and get that into policy. There’s a huge gap between community and actual policy. The time it takes to get from here to here, it’s too long. By that time, the community is changing. The world is ...

Right.

Exactly. It’s very difficult, but once you have that, it’s really easy to scale up. If you start it in one school, it’s so easy to do the same, because you have that evidence base and how successful it’s worked. It’s really great.

I was trying to integrate social accountability into the medical curriculum. Anything in medicine or any curriculum change takes huge, huge efforts, and you need everyone behind you. You need friends in the top, basically. [laughs]

Using that difference in education systems. It’s so difficult to change curriculum, and curriculum development as well, because I’ve been involved in that…

As soon as I went and took a year out into business and management, we did an entrepreneurship module, and I’ve never thought creatively like that before. It opened my eyes to what there is out there. [laughs]

That’s really great, because there’s so much more to education than just to rote learning. Especially because, like you said, medicine is very, very didactic, and there’s only a limited number of things you can learn and everyone has the same textbook.

It’s the same…

That’s the other point I was going to say. Innovation is so important, especially for climate change. The youth are so great at that. With that interdisciplinary collaboration, it will be propagating that innovation a lot quicker. I’m glad that you’re already on top of that as well. [laughs]

That’s fantastic. This whole project is really commendable. It’s a great way to encourage communities to think of other innovative ideas as well.

In the same system, we’re developing a local national review, so really empowering communities as well for the climate agenda.

Yeah. In public health and communities. One way to achieve that is through health, but also, other ways would just be through building a more integrative community system and having local…I know you don’t have national reviews…

Yes.

Actually, we don’t really think about building resilience into the communities and building from a bottom-up approach as well. It’s just things which are often forgotten, which it’s worth mentioning. I think it would be really appreciated.

It’s in the back. It’s in the background. It’s not really mentioned. Often, the conversation is very directed towards building resilience into the infrastructure and building resilience in government systems.

Yeah. Because of my background in health, from my experience, I’ve also seen at the UN, ECOSOC, where I was the only person there representing the health perspective of these issues, like climate change impacts health. I was the only one advocating for that and speaking for that, particularly as ...

It’s about accessibility as well.

Exactly.

It makes a huge difference, and it makes it more accessible for other people watching online, and things like that, too. It’s in every way possible, that’s the best thing that you could have done.

Something we’ve noticed now is that when you do have a youth member on a panel, the whole language changes and people use simpler language, and it’s exactly the same word but it’s just more understandable so that people aren’t googling what this word means, or searching on this an ...

Yeah, it’s so great, and it really makes a difference. In order to have a youth member on all panels, you really need to change the organizational ethos as well, to make it more accessible to youth.