I also have, not too many, but T-shirts.

Everyone likes them.

As usual, in Mozilla style, we have gifts.

Now they may be looking at things locally in Taiwan. That could look at elderly users on the Internet. Their needs will be very different to a millennial’s need, who will be very different to our needs. How can we perhaps build products that specifically empower the older user segment, ...

For example, as Joe said, it’s very product oriented. They both are working on Firefox and they have lots of expertise in mobile Firefox. It came out the last year, but they went out to Indonesia and brought a specific product called Firefox Rocket that has a very specific use ...

I think, in general, what we we realize is, we build Firefox as a product, that’s a very global product, and obviously, lots of people use it, there are definitely use cases and lots of possibilities with more niche products.

When is that?

Next year you have a summit or a conference.

...a connection to Patrick and Suzy who also talked about open innovation. We’ve done extensive research with years and years of community input that’s finally being digitalized, taking a few months’ process through Katharina or Sharon in IT. There’s tons of stuff we potentially could implement in 2018.

It’s part of our DNA.

One thing, just to table while we can. We’re specifically talking about common voice, languages and voice speech but obviously even from this, there’s 101 other things. Are there interesting things that you would like to bring up?

We have local people, as well. They can also...

I think, in general, getting into the startups, locally, looking at voice and speech would be an interesting side conversation that we might want to add, just to understand, "What are they doing? What are they trying to achieve?" and, "Is there any way that Mozilla could be supporting, helping, ...

That’s obviously something that we already are pretty strong at. I’m not trying to win the round, but just throwing it into the mixture.

Just one thing on the education piece. I know we talked about indigenous languages and local languages. If I flipped it slightly around, what about actually people learning, improving their English. Is there any efforts in that regard?

We say the same thing about Common Voice, where we provide the initial technology and the alacrity with which the languages develop.

But it’s the expectation when one is available, 24 others are available? Or can it be progressive?

...getting exposure helps these projects grow. Mozilla and the Taiwanese ministry is a strong combination, but are there rules, guidelines, principles that you follow when working with commercial entities?

That thing Alex said would be interesting. They’d need to understand those sorts of things.

Are there protocols to press, PR, communications? Obviously, we’re not aware of how you work, for instance...

One thing, and it is something to possibly table, considering we have communication people in the room. It would be good to understand, just from a higher level, when the ministry, for example, works with commercial partners or even social enterprises or not-for-profits, how do you typically communicate?

I saw a group of children when I came in.

Or the slightly other way around, which is when you talk about young school children today that, as part of it, they had the opportunity to learn...

We’re going to get the list of the Taiwan communities that participate in the Grand Challenge?

What I mean is just say, for example, we ingest it within Common Voice, we can get it read by many thousands, of not tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands more people. That would be interesting, because it would give different accents.

Am I right to assuming that the original data set is only read by one-thousand group of people?

Historically, these data, even some form of this database in digital format, has not existed?

It reminds me of a very early Mozilla sticker, "Internet for the people, by the people."

We’re keen to get your take on this stuff. We have a number of pretty ambitious, lofty goals for what we’d like to do, but we also have a number of challenges. Later on, we can surface some of those challenges. Maybe there are ways, potentially, you and others can ...

To put it in perspective, just a few weeks ago, they were talking to even what you would consider to be our competitors at Google, etc. Because all of this is out in the open, even Google Assistant or Alexa, theoretically can ingest this, and that’s super powerful. Anything we’re ...

That’s good for everyone, because once there’s innovation and competition, then we’ll see probably very cool things appearing in this voice space. Right now, we’re guided by what Amazon does or what Google does. I think that’s not great for the entire world. It’s great for North America or maybe ...

We ourselves, at Mozilla, we don’t plan to build an Alexa. That is, it’s currrently not our focus to build such products. What we want to do is if we can find the data, we will allow other people to innovate on top of that, and potentially create niche competition ...

What we’re finding right now is the general design pattern for most of those voice recognition services are white, 35-year-old males from North America. That’s what those systems basically recognize. What all these big companies are missing out on is the fact that there are different languages in the world, ...

Sometimes I think it’s easier, if there’s a small opportunity, to get a laptop and show what the website is and what it does. It’s quite easy. Mike was talking about the project itself, but from a top level, if we look at voice recognition services -- Alexa, Siri, Cortana, ...

You have.

Mike, I don’t know whether it will be useful. Has everyone yet seen the website or how it works?

I’ve been at Mozilla from back when we were a hundred people. I look at the innovation and emerging technologies piece. I look at external relationships. How do we work with outside world, the real world.

Yeah, Skype was just not good enough.

Thank you very much. This year you have to come.

I’m Desigan Chinniah, based out of London. Audrey and I met briefly at MozFest, which you were a virtual participant.