My sense is that, I’ve now been doing online for a good…I’ve been doing it for years, but I’ve been only-online for the last four months. My experience is that the discussions can be very intense.

The biggest challenge that we’ve got is the concept of building trust. What are the kinds of changes that you need to make in dialog in order to have what we normally think of as chemistry?

Yeah, it’s really, really interesting. Minister Tang, are you familiar, is there some place that is ahead of the rest of us in having data around how people’s brains react to the difference between looking at people on a screen versus looking at people in-person? How to best simulate eye-to-eye ...

That’s interesting.

I can see you. It looks like from a different camera. That’s right, I just switched camera.

I can see you. Minister Tang, will you go back? I think Vicki said she could see you when I couldn’t. Turn your video off for a second.

Are you getting a…It’s weird, I think Vicki gets a T when I see you. You’re seeing a T now.

Yes, I can.

Right.

I know, but…

Terrific. I don’t think Minister Tang was holding up the device, unless I didn’t see it, right?

Now I can see you. Can you still see, Minister?

Vicki, that would be so interesting for us to try out as a team, wouldn’t it, before we looked at doing it as a dialog supporter.

Wow, that’s so interesting. Let’s say that our team thought about doing that for a dialog. How much practice do you think the team would need to do ahead of time?

All you need is regular WiFi?

One of the biggest challenges that we have is that we include in our dialogs a lot of people that are somewhere between Luddites and inexperienced.

I’m so fascinated by that. Does it require each of the participants to have special software?

Is there something that you’re hoping we will cover and get to during this discussion?

I’d love for Vicki and I to pepper you with questions, but…

That’s fascinating.

Am I able to make you a host?

Are you able to share your screen to show what it would look like?

I would love to see that.

That’s a shame. I would love to…

Really?