Thank you.

Always good, always good to chat.

All right. I think that’s interesting. Thank you as always.

Yeah, rolled out.

Seriously, they do. Sorry, regarding the E-Taiwanese part about the numbers with ARC matching, when do you think those changes can be turned out?

Can you give the middle...

Yeah, that’s a long time coming.

Do you have any other final...

Great. Do you have any questions?

Got it.

If you pass it. If you fail it, then it’s too hard.

We’ll keep you up-to-date, but we would love your support and...

One of the biggest problems is exactly because there doesn’t seem to be any certifications or standards. If we can have this organization, this alliance setting these certain standards and certifications about who can do what, I think that would be a good start.

That’d be good. That’s actually really interesting idea. Overall, yeah, we are still in the midst of trying to set the standards.

Lowering anxiety.

Got it.

That sounds like a great idea actually.

It’s good idea. You have to start young.

Exactly. So probably tie this in with the English teachers. Of course, we have to see what English is or whether they’re good at coaching for marketing or branding, whether they’re good at teaching in elementary. We’d have to distinguish between those teachers.

Of course, we have to tie this program and this initiative with perhaps the Gold Card. We have to tie it in with some type of, "Hey, come here and we will give you the rights to stay."

Yes. They would have to be fluent in both languages. The standards would have to be rigorous. Yeah. We do come across, and that’s the saddest thing is we do find these talents in Taiwan already, but sadly a lot of them are leaving.

We’re thinking from a more gathering the foreign resources in Taiwan, as well as trying to make this into a bigger coalition.

Exactly. We’d like to set up an alliance that actually does provide these programs for companies and workplaces to see how this initiative might work. Of course, while we were brainstorming, we said, "Yeah, we’d love to talk with Minister Tang about this." Of course, as we roll out, we’ll ...

Exactly. The idea is to have to teach them how to fish instead of fishing for them.

I’ve been telling companies, unless they want to keep paying for your services, once that is over, is over, and then you’re stuck back to zero.

We would like to establish a program that actually provides certain standards for English teachers. These teachers placed throughout schools, but also for workplaces. One of the problems which got brought up was, "Hey, if you’re going to teach a company to go global, your consultant, your marketing agency, you ...

One of the things, after our studies and the interviews, is figuring out that there seems to be a lot of so-called English teachers in Taiwan, but they’re not actually true English teachers. They just have a foreigner’s face and apparently they can teach English.

We’re hoping to provide some recommendations policy wise from there. Third, which is the part where we’d like perhaps your involvement, is we would like to form an alliance of organizations, educators, but also influencers, policymakers, but also to set up a structure, which would actually, perhaps -- and this ...

The other part of that is a legislative hearing that we hope to also gather coalition and use this opportunity as a chance to gather the voices of the foreign community, especially the teachers here, the educators, but also tie it into a greater nationalization movement. If we’re really talking ...

Four official languages, maybe the background history is slightly different, but we’ll see if we can learn anything on that too.

I’m not exactly sure if Swiss and Canada are the best models for Taiwan, but at least we can ask them some questions.

He’s also a professor at Taipei Tech, a professor of law and IT. We are actually working with Karen Yu, also to talk about this bilingual initiative. One, we’re actually having lunch with the Swiss and Canadian ambassadors or consulates on October 31st, to discuss their models on how a ...

Excellent. Another initiative that Crossroads is doing, do you know Professor Chen, Louis Chen?

Exactly, just download it.

That’s actually what I want to talk to you about.

Some way or another.

Open up channels for talent from Silicon Valley SU to Taiwan somehow. I don’t know.

Yeah, great Crossroads, but...

For the common good.

Is that the one in Linkou?

As far as seeking sponsorship through the central government, what would be a good path to start navigating that scene also, to see who would be interested? Of course, MOST might definitely be the target, but also National Development Council. Any navigational guidance regarding that part?

Exactly, yeah, that would be cool.

Yeah, that would be good.

Exactly, as a guest. That would be good.

...informal capacity or somehow.

We’ll see if they can bring over some of their influencers from Southeast Asia to come join the summit, even in a...

A part of Crossroads resources will be dedicated to this.

It’s so hard to sell SU the idea of an Asia summit. It’d be cool if we can make it bigger, especially tied in the Southeast Asia. That’d be fascinating.

How to establish...

Exactly.