Thanks so much for taking the time today. Really appreciate it. I think I got the answers that I came to look for. Thank you so much, Audrey, really appreciate it.

Currently, in the world today, we still have cities like Los Angeles, New York, San Francisco, who are still experiencing high rates of mortality. Do you think that the Taiwan model is able to help places like this?

Do you ever run into troubles when you’re dealing with the higher-level ministers? I’m guessing that they’re not trained epidemiologists. Do you have issues with communicating with them in this way, or do you think it’s OK?

I’m guessing if you’re talking with higher-level ministers, then they’re actually in positions of power the way that they can actually affect policy and things like that.

You would say that the zero-track diplomacy is actually more efficient, then?

That pre-WHA, what countries were part of that?

Cool. Can you explain a little bit what you mean by first-track and zero-track diplomacy?

These are municipalities in Japan?

Nice. Are there any other countries? I know you mentioned that the blueprints are now online and everything. Is that being put to use?

Oh, cool.

Are there countries that have taken advantage of the resources that you were speaking about?

Basically, we want to empower citizens to be able to work with lawmakers to find a solution together?

Basically, how you say something is just as important, or more important, than what you’re saying?

What advice would you have for other leaders around the world so that their citizens don’t have to endure a lockdown or a shelter-in-place?

[laughs]

Nice. I’m trying to think, basically, we’re using these methods that are preexisting to help our pandemic efforts. If other countries wanted to adopt similar measures, what would you suggest?

Cool. It’s the same all around the world? Other countries, other telecom companies are also collecting this data already?

Basically, we’re using preexisting data that is already being widely collected, and then just reusing that data in a way that we can help our pandemic prevention?

Tell me a little bit about the data that we collect to figure out where people are during this quarantine.

In the US, for example, or in other Western countries, we see a lot of people refusing to collaborate with the government because of their personal rights or what they perceive as a violation of privacy. How do you think Taiwan has dealt with this?

Basically, we can see that in Taiwan people are very willing to work with the government because we guarantee the privacy of the individual citizen.

[laughs]

Basically, these were hackers or independent programmers who…

To help each other, yeah.

Thank you. You did talk a little bit about grassroots efforts on the part of the Taiwanese people. Can you share with us a little more of what Taiwanese have done to help the government during this pandemic?

Can you tell us more about that?

Cool. This one’s not on the script, but I was actually curious because you recently signed the IDEA Democracy thing.

It’s on their actual personal phone, right?

[laughs]

Speaking about the different measures that we took, can you tell us a little bit more about cell phone tracing and how that worked? I know in the US for example…

Taiwan suffered immensely during the SARS pandemic. How do you think that experience has informed our current response?

We know Taiwan’s done a great job with the pandemic response. Can you tell us what Taiwan has excelled in the most?

Thank you so much for having us.

All right, cool.

Cool. Fingers crossed for you.

We should get all of our suggestions in.

OK. We could do that next time, Pol.is.

It needs to update. OK, cool.

Then it would be easier if you got people to come in and be like, “We can work off of that and make it even better.”

Another thing I was thinking, actually, is they could probably just proceed. That’s a massive translators website. They have their own CMT databases, which are pretty good. It would be more updated than their current ‘93 version.

Important issues.

It’s true, yeah. It’s like, these things need maintenance.

Yeah.

I guess I don’t have as many outside interface, but quality of the database, I’m very, very concerned about it.

That’ll be good. If they ever need someone who’s native English to come in and be like, “These are the better translations,” or, “These are the considerations under review,” it’s here. Yeah, we did go through that as well.

Everywhere. It’s like, “It’s the only one. That’s not what it means.”

[whispers] Oh, no.

Whenever I do translation, and we have a vocab list, I’ll list all of those things, so that other translators who are doing the same document, the same project, they’ll know that, “We translated it this way, because of these considerations.” Then in the future, if things change, then we ...

I feel like reporting or adding suggestions, because a lot of the time, when you translate, for example, across languages, there’s different cultural connotations that you have to be aware of.

No, there wasn’t. That was missing.