[laughs] I’ll leave you guys. I’ll leave you guys for the interviews, yeah. Thank you.

...to see the end.

Thank you very much, Audrey. It’s a great pleasure, and an open experience for me, that we are pulling from all the different units. I’m just looking forward to be in their journeys...

OK.

What would be a way for, because this kind of resource, it is available in Taiwan, but it’s just difficult to...

I just need advice. [laughs] For I am working on climate change, and we’re having difficulty finding software programmers, front end programmers. We’ve been trying to tackle that. I think that applies to a lot of social enterprise as well, that we’re trying to utilize software to get into it.

I don’t want to take up too much else of your time. You also have an interview with Mele-Ane as well, but do you guys have anything that you like to ask?

It would be wonderful if you can share with us what you discover when you come into the office, and what initiative that you’re trying to drive.

We’re just all very keen to learn what you’re bringing to the government, and what kind of changes that’s happening. They’ll each have different kind of questions about what you do, and then later, Mele-Ane will stay with you to do an interview for the magazine in Australia.

I had a chance to share with them what you do, and what you did before coming to the office, and what you’re doing right now with the benefit corporation, and to drive transparency and digital within the government.

Great. That’s wonderful.

Cool. Alex is a board member of B Lab Australia as well, so Australia-New Zealand, and then Mele-Ane’s the chairman for B Lab Australia and New Zealand, so they work with each other. [laughs]

Already?

Have you met with Alex Hannant already?