Thank you very much for your time.

Do you mind if I take a quick photo of you for the...?

Last thing, Audrey, I was wondering if there’s one thing you can tell the Canadian leaders, because a lot of Canadian businesses are interested in social enterprises, but they can’t attend today. If there’s one thing you can tell Canadian people, Canadian companies, in general, about the message you want ...

Going forward, are you going to be talking with the Blueseeds to track how successful the Canadian reception to this is?

Canadian language does not mean only a language. A language belongs to everyone who uses it.

Your background in computer languages, did this contribute to your thinking, your ideology behind this? How did you experience in terms of working in a globalized computer language co-forming community? How did this inform your theories and your practices in terms of leading this effort?

A lot of this success, by the sounds of it, it sounds like transparency is the main thing, the fact that people have to know what processes...A lot of this is education and communications like you said.

Moving forward, how would you judge this visit as a success? You have a milestone or what you like to achieve either through Blueseeds or other Taiwanese companies here in Canada, here in North America? Is there something that you’d like in a year’s time, two years’ time, five years’ ...

It’s not just a sticker on a product that says "social enterprise." You need to let people understand exactly what you’re doing to society by buying this product.

Right.

What about here? With you setting up office here, the ideas also introduce a little bit of this Taiwanese warm power, so to speak, this social enterprise model to this North American market. Do you have any indication that consumers here are willing to pay more for socially responsible, socially ...

This is in Taiwan, right?

Do you think that consumers are willing to pay a little bit more, or companies are willing to pay a little bit more, for goods that are beneficial to society and beneficial to the environment? What’s your opinion on that? Are consumers willing to pay...?

Going back with the social enterprise model, our experience here is that things like solar power and things like something that benefits the community in the past usually costs a little bit more. I’ve talked to Blueseeds, and they’ve said their products do cost a little bit more than conventional ...

Do you think that is reflected in your work on this field, the fact that looking outside the box, looking outside of the traditional learning processes that institutions and governments have set up, it’s important to really resolve issues going forward?

I know you’re a big proponent of non-traditional educational means. People learn through life, not necessarily best learning through the traditional school system structures and things of that nature.

It came from the Elders. They don’t want the pipeline to go though. What can Taiwan offer from its experience from dealing with Aboriginals and benefit economically business-wise that Canada can learn from. Is there something that we can learn from?

Aboriginal issues here is a very big issue. We had a big incident here last year in terms of people opposing a pipeline coming through here, and a lot of the opposition came from the Aboriginal.

Can you talk a little bit about your choice of Canada and Vancouver, specifically Vancouver and Toronto. Why did you choose this location to say, "This is a good chance for us to talk about social enterprises." Is there something about Canada as a market that made you choose it?

This is the effect of the companies. As the companies grow, they become better representatives of society with their work towards diversity within the workforce, so that naturally becomes heart of the business. When they do good business, it doesn’t just make sense socially, it makes sense financially, because that’s ...

How do you know that the model’s working? Is there a way of judging how successful a social enterprise is in Taiwan?

First day in Vancouver. How are you finding the reactions from the friends here?

What about Vancouver? I know Vancouver’s tech community is not as big, but have you had a chance to go to Vancouver?

If I can ask you, for starters, have you been to Canada before?

I know you’re very busy. This trip is possibly ongoing, so thank you very much for your time.