OK, cool. Wow.

Maybe a good thing, yeah. I think I would like a visit sometime.

That’s important. That’s a key thing.

I think at the town hall…

I think maybe even better than everyone online.

I think it’s also good to have the physical meeting too, combining with technology. You have face to face, so I think that makes this good.

Not confrontation.

You have control.

For a town hall meeting, how can you prevent it’s being dominated by a certain group of people? Meaning some group, they have voice, NGO, sometimes they control the meeting.

Remotely?

Yeah, spend time. For the town hall meeting that you mentioned, so this one, they do it locally and then you…?

And other minister visiting the center?

The national. Oh, OK.

This one, the Taipei one, it’s also run by the local…?

From what time to what time?

You go there in Tuesday, on Tuesday?

Where is the lab though? Is it far away from here?

We should. I should invite you next time, if I happen to be able to do it. I think that’s important. Now we have tried something, but maybe in a very small scale in Bangkok, city lab, they’re testing some simple things.

So hopefully…

Oh, really?

Then we’ll collaborate with the MPs, the ones who supported the act.

I think we can start that in Bangkok, doing…I mean we find a open government, the open platform.

I should remember that.

You should provide good food.

You have enough sugar in your brain, you make the idea efficient.

Yeah, I heard about that.

Oh, really, so that’s a…?

Include health, education.

You do remote teaching?

Ah, OK, for communication.

I think that’s important.

Physical machines too?

Do they have maker space, something like that?

Ah, the local government.

Who operate these centers, your ministry?

We went there today.

In the suburb.

Then how many city lab? You have one major one?

Excellent.

You do away with silos, you know.

Yeah, so you’re piercing through all the ministry.

You need to have staff from each ministry joining?

But that crossing many ministries?

Wow, interesting.

So can we commercialize this too?

This the group that’s using your space, that you mentioned? They are the one who are using your space in the City Lab?

So you have AI assistance? Beside you.

Really?

No pressure?

How you feel being a judge?