So, there’s not there hasn’t been a topic on housing disparity before?

That’d be great. One question about the Let’s Talk programme, each year it’s a different topic, right?

They’re very pleasant. They make a lot of sense. I’ve been to lots of temples in the last week and I’m like, this is beautiful. I get this, like I love this.

They’re pretty chill.

Yeah, I think it’s a very interesting avenue of driving into the religious communities of like fact checking. Because if you look at our if you take our country as a case study there, one of the biggest issues with facts is through religious communities and how certain ones are ...

Yeah, radical trust. I love that.

Yeah, it’s very refreshing.

Like the public transit situation is up front like, it’s all just so easy so I really just… Everyone ‘s so nice…

But being here to be fair, I’ve noticed some Taiwanese exceptions…

Yeah, I was saying that we’re all glad to be here and experience how that is.

Okay, sounds great.

But yes, to the point, they want to do it in different cities, to be able to take that, you know, collective artifact and share it with, you know, leaders in the legislature there. But I think to continue, you know, to continue the conversation is something they would also ...

Yeah, I have a background in journalism. And so, I interviewed them all. And so, I knew their stories. It was a very interesting lived experience as the journalist, then see the output, to like, because you know everything you heard. And to see how Talk to the City came ...

So that’s, in that project in particular, that was just in a small area in Michigan. But we’d like to do it in other places. It was just… it’s a lot of work. I interviewed them all personally.

And so, hearing their stories, we’re hoping that the legislature in Michigan, in particular, will try to put laws and put forward programs that help make their reintegration easier. Especially on technology, because that’s a really easy one. It’s to start, you know, they know when they’re returning, to start ...

And he’s like, Mom, that guy’s crazy. She’s like, No, he’s on his Bluetooth headset. And he’d been in prison so long, the concept of Bluetooth never occurred to him. And this is something none of us can even think about, because we haven’t been pulled out of society and ...

So, they have contacts throughout municipalities in the states, in Ohio and New York, as well, and want to try to figure out how we can continue the conversation in those areas. And the output of that report, for those who aren’t aware, the TLDR is we interviewed formerly incarcerated ...

I can speak to that specifically. Yes, there’s actually an appetite to expand it more broadly, because the group that we worked with, Silent Cry, isn’t just based in Michigan.

Here comes a pleasant surprise. I’m also from AOI. I’m Brittney Gallagher, the co-founder. In fact, Audrey, your work really inspired Peter Eckersley and I originally. So, it’s an honor to meet you in person.