Yeah. Thank you. Thank you also for your time.

And like for me, it’s my interest to see more great examples like how you’re working, like educating about open source and privacy. We like to see that more. I mean, I don’t have to categorize this as public sector or private sector, but it’s still like it’s for the ...

But no, no, no. Like this is my sincere personal… like especially very… because I’m as one of the Asian people and it’s very inspiring to see this happening here. And yeah, and I hope that if there’s anything we can support, let us know.

Then I will visit with Vitalik.

Yes. Like she said, we don’t normally go out to the government and then ask, hey, how do we work together thing. So, it’s that she was more representing her team. But I am personally, as much as I think of Vitalik, in the same queue that admire what you ...

That’s probably the reason that is making Taiwan a very unique place. I’m always interested in working with developing countries because they have necessity and that creates more creativity and urgency and creativity. I don’t see that in most of the developed countries. But you have these similar… sorry, unique ...

Yeah, I think that’s amazing. I only have the image because you said you can’t really translate it into English, but that doesn’t really exist in other places as far as I know. And then that is educating people about privacy, data…

Is the name that you, sorry I can’t pronounce that non-personal data name, that’s created by the government?

But yeah, I wonder what level of education is already being done?

And I know you are quite a researcher and an understander.

How much these different parts of the government, different ministries are knowledgeable about things like zero-knowledge at this moment?

Yeah, I know. I think we have to talk about privacy. It’s the AI, definitely.

Yeah. It took a while for us to really convince everyone this is not like one, two, three, two, it’s more like working together. I think sometimes memes are tricky. People’s mindset was, oh, okay, so the first part is going to be eliminated was the image of the general ...

Panda.

They don’t like the censorship resistance and stuff like that. So, that’s where I think that research level of thing, we can also… I guess, Barry is leading a lot of research into this. Do you have more questions about that?

Yeah. Well, I think, first of all, it’s very amazing that I’ve talked to many different governments, and then they’re all thinking about DIDs, but I think no one has started thinking about that level of refugees, issues, and also privacy.

How about the privacy side of ID? Because all the different governments are having the same challenge now.

What’s your interest and view on things like decentralized ID? What level do you want to get as Taiwan? Because there are a lot of experiments happening in the world.

There’s… we’re trying to have a deeper understanding about how this can benefit the public. So, looking for more examples to support. It’s always better to be built by local teams and local people, so that is just high level. Yeah.

And also, we have some great talent. She (Hsiao-Wei) is, by the way, the top star. We don’t have a lot of diversity in the core researchers and developers yet. So, having her has been very inspiring to other people. So that’s one of… but also things in the US, ...

And we did a lot of support in Latin America, for example, the last couple of years. And I think like we’re interested in supporting more things also in Asia next. And that’s one of the reasons why I came over here.

And then I don’t know, you’ve been working with Vitalik and others. But also, between Vitalik and myself too, like we’ve been talking about how to make the community a little bit more diverse.

Great. Speaking of plurality, one of my personal, but also the interest from the Ethereum Foundation is that Ethereum started mainly in European communities, like in Berlin.

When Joy was organizing this…

We met in Tokyo.

Okay. I am Aya Miyaguchi, currently the Executive Director of the Ethereum Foundation.

Yeah.