Very much so. We’re actively exporting that.

Awesome.

I saw that the Marriage Equality Platform is also co-hosting?

1914.

It would be Huashan? Awesome. That’s a great venue.

The venue would be?

That’s all on the 12th?

That’s right.

Unless you focus on smart citizens.

So it’s civic tech?

Very much so.

The Tech for Good, in your idea, is it most about civic engagement, as in civic tech? Or is it larger, as in impact tech, like addressing climate change and things like that? Are you focusing mostly on the mission of the Freedom Forum, or are you also looking at...?

That’s right, in the Legislative, yes.

That’s good.

That’s good.

[laughs] OK.

It wasn’t tripartisan?

I am free from, I think, 2:30 PM, all the way to maybe 7:00 PM or 8:00 PM.

The 12th?

I’m very happy to join.

It’s the mid-autumn festival? That’s September 13th.

The Oslo Freedom Forum is coming back to Taiwan.

The entire accountability mechanism, precisely because we’re not an OGP member country, we can pilot a new NAP process for OGP members. If anyone reading this is interested, just write me an email.

That includes domestic stakeholders, and also international ones. If you are an international NAP-participated stakeholder community, and you want the Open Government Partnership process to change for the better... Many people told us they want it to be longer, like three to four years, to match the term of the ...

Right. Taiwan is doing a national action plan on open government, the Taiwan Open Government National Action Plan. The process will start right after the presidential election. For the rest of this year, what we’re doing is consultations for people who have participated in the Open Government Partnership (OGP) before.

It’s like anti-money laundering. Each part needs to review where their payment came from. If ultimately the payment came from a non-citizen source, then it’s subject to a very large fine. Basically, what we’re trying to do is making sure the media environment during elections is held to the same ...

If you are not in a jurisdiction with voting rights, if you are not a citizen, basically, you cannot donate to campaign donation, anyway. So you shouldn’t be able to do precision targeting if you are a foreigner. That requires the platforms to review how the precision targeting is written, ...

That part doesn’t need to be disclosed in the same way as campaign financing. We’re now saying that the new norm is that all the advertisers and all the people who receive advertisement need to fully disclose it to the same degree as the political campaign donation.

It used to be watermarked A4 printouts, and a g0v project had to ask people to do a kind of Captcha, to re-digitize it. The bad old days are gone, it’s now radically open. In the previous election, because that’s the first time this new radical openness is applied, what ...

Right now, you can just go to the Control Yuan building, and they will just give you a CD-ROM of that structured data.

This year, it’s new, yeah. Folks from the g0v-cy project campaigned for it for years. Finally, it’s passed.

Again, just by having people generally aware that there are info ops going on, and also, for the first time, requiring the sponsored advertisements, in form of precision targeting or whatever, to be held to the same standard to political campaign donations -- which is, I think, the world’s most ...

Nobody runs counter to transparency and participation, which is what I care about. That’s the first thing. The second thing is that the closer the election day is, of course, the more information operation there will be.

I think the elections -- I’m very hopeful, because none of the presidential candidates, as I said, is against open government. Everybody has to now say that they want to do more open government. That you can see in the DPP primary and now in the KMT primary.

Sure, of course.

It’s fine.

It doesn’t have to be a zero-sum thing, though. The multinationals can also join social initiatives -- as Facebook and LINE did -- for the Digital Accountability Plan.

Their developer groups include all the taxi drivers in Taiwan Taxi that have an IT background. They are like the front line that co-design the experience. Now, the experience is actually better than Uber. I have all the confidence in the innovation in Taiwan’s private and social sectors to out-compete ...

We’re actually exporting this, this model. Even for, like, the Taiwan Taxi, who has been diversifying their payment systems, their routing system, and things like that, they are domestic, but they are heavily influenced by the actual drivers.

The innovation that it deliver in the form of an electric vehicle that is shared in Taoyuan City now, I think, is very compelling for people to reduce the overall amount of motorcycles on the road, as well as reducing carbon emission and all that.

No, I’m very confident, actually. The local ride-sharing service, Gogoro’s Go Share, is a really good example. It’s driven by the need for a better electricity, renewable energy, carbon reduction, and so on.

We will continue to push them this way until they become a socially purpose-driven company.

At this time, we appreciate their willingness to work with, for example, community colleges -- which is a prominent social sector innovation in Taiwan -- to distribute media literacy, critical creative thinking, and indeed, to teach people who are long out of the university to reevaluate their relationship with the ...

I think if Facebook eventually gets convinced and become a social enterprise, that would be great.

We highlight the unlikely partnerships between the companies, the associations, and charities. All this is basically a way to prototype a new relationship across the different sectors, so that the social sector can drive the sustainability strategy of the cooperative, for-profit sector, so everybody becomes more aware of the with-profit, ...

The idea is that we build this ecosystem where, if you include these socially purpose-driven or impact-driven organizations in your supply chain, and you buy five million NT dollars a year, I personally go out and give you award.

You can very easily actually sort them by the topic that they’re working on, by the locality they’re working on, by the social or environmental issues that they are addressing. We let people view, very easily, their benefit reports.

It’s not just companies, but also co-ops, foundations, and associations. We have a single registry at SI -- that’s social innovation -- si.taiwan.gov.tw that lets people see the 400 or so of social innovative organizations.

I think this is very important. Finally, I would also say it’s always our hope of promoting social entrepreneurship, as well as a registry of companies that declare their social purpose on their founding charters, as well as publishing benefit reports, like B corps usually do.

In Taiwan, we always preferred this kind of norm-shaping way to make them more socially responsible. Then other governments or other jurisdictions will see how they have changed their ways, driven by a democratic social sector, and then learn from this conversation.