Not exactly, but, yeah. I know there’s still some threshold going here, which is what we get from this public consultation. We’ve got a lot of foreign people saying that keeping to the APRC is too strict, or a minimum of 183 days per year in Taiwan is not encouraging, ...

Sponsor...

Right, that’s a big problem, but this is something else. This, you just need a local company to vouch for you or whatever.

That’s right, and also having their spouses and children to easily enjoy health care here and so on. It’s about improving the overall life quality of foreign people and talent.

Yeah, there’s an act for recruitment and employment form. Right, so you did.

Not just coders.

Right, and then the end product, like this week, we’re having this foreign talent act, which encourages people from all sort of diverse backgrounds.

Exactly.

Which is one part of the entrepreneurship also, because of our changed electricity laws that promotes renewable resources. That will be Minister Wu’s work. It is not my work. There’s also many other plans around startup entrepreneurship, but I’m mostly about social enterprises.

Or you can see it as a social mission that happens to earn some money to be sustainable, or you can view it any which way. That’s my purview, but there’s other part as well. There’s the green energy, sustainable development part.

I think so far, so good. We have an innovation and entrepreneurship plan going on, also managed by the NDC. I’m overseeing only one small part of it. It’s about social enterprises. That’s about companies whose solve social problems while doing their business.

Exactly.

This is about bridging the young people’s talents and entrepreneurship with the more seasoned industry veteran’s resources, and so on. This is intergenerational glue, but the force here at play is always on the gluing. It’s not on promoting any particular sector.

The next part is a startup entrepreneurship ecosystem, which we need to increase our supply chain and related laws and regulations, and building an innovative environment. Then again, this is not about young people.

The core message is about to create a comprehensive ecosystem and diversified aspects for services. It’s not about focusing more on software. It’s about getting software people to work with hardware people.

It’s mostly that the two core elements. One, it’s not about moving from hardware to software. We have pretty strong hardware, pretty strong software. It’s just that they were not linked together. They were not glued together as a set.

So that people there also learn to internally collaborate and have this kind of organizational structure instead of the purely tree‑like structure. As you can see, this is very cross‑functional.

Mostly I see myself as a channel that takes the activist circles, ideas, collective intelligence, and whatever, and try to synthesize it and translate it somehow into bureaucratic language, and then also trying to reform the bureaucracy.

I don’t see how this should be naturally exclusive.

The National Development Council.

The CEO is his deputy minister, the deputy minister of NDC commission, who runs the day‑to‑day program. This is the structure. I mostly just set our direction.

Exactly. We hired these people already. I’m head of supervising committee. I just set an overall direction. It’s not mostly me, actually. Mostly it’s the minister of NDC, who is himself a minister without portfolio also, and then working with the economy and scientific knowledge administers.

It is, so...

Finally, there’s also a media marketing part, because as you can see, this is actually a very marketing Taiwan kind of move.

There’s a CFO that makes the investments, both on a national level, to the more promising sectors, and also linking Silicon Valley VCs for Taiwanese companies. It’s bi‑directional. There’s also the deregulation and policies to identify exactly what the regulations need to change in response to such startups and IoT ...

On the ground, it means there’s a technology officer to do the research environment thing. There’s the human resource, for lack of better term, officer, that does the IoT gluing, as we just said.

It’s all done. Yeah, linking Asia, connecting to Valley...

Not exactly. I’m mostly just pointing out directions. ASVDA is actually an independent agency, and we hire people who are seasoned veteran Silicon Valley people to be the C‑level people, because these...

There’s no real glue. There’s no glue to, and so that’s the first challenge.

It’s normally a very disjointed ecosystem. We have the suppliers who supply to brands overseas, and we have some app people working on analytics...

Exactly, but then for the business intelligences, for the analytics, for the application layer things, there is very little integration between the Taiwanese people making this kind of software versus the Taiwanese people doing the sensors and everything.

Two main challenges for the ASVDA. The first challenge is that there is a lot of IoT innovation going on in Taiwan for R&D and everything, but it’s mostly centered around lower levels such as the sensors, such as the protocol level, the computational level, and...

Exactly, so it’s linking with Asia and linking with Silicon Valley.

We have the ASVDA, which is our website. As you can see, it is Asia Silicon Valley. It’s not "Asian" Silicon Valley, meaning that we’re linking with Asia...

Exactly right, which I think is all very silly.

There was a lot of messages, especially during the campaign.

...is saying that we are not making Taiwan an Asia Silicon Valley. One of my first moves was to redefine the Asian Silicon Valley plan into the Asia dot Silicon Valley plan, meaning that we’re connecting to the rest of Asia, and then we’re connecting to Silicon Valley, but we ...

It is Silicon Valley. That first thing is...

I’m sorry.

Yeah.

You’ll get a transcript to edit.

No, no. I’ll just turn on the audio on.

Thank you. Cheers.

Have a good trip back. Well, you come here often anyway.

Awesome. That’s pretty much it.

Zach will be coordinating my time, but I’m very interested. Anything that gives me excuse to go back to France is good.

Of course.

Like a torch?

In Toulouse?

It’s July next year?