Right. You can use that. Maybe not the neural lace part; other parts.
What I will do is that after each of our meetings, I will do a full transcript of what has been spoken here, and you can edit for brevity, making the message more powerful.
Honestly, I’m not involved in the case selection process or the review process of any of those four funds. I’m aware of their existence and what kind of companies that they produced, but I’m not involved in the process at all, so I have no idea about the criteria that ...
I think those are the four primary programs. I’m not directly in touch with any one of them. [laughs] I just read some bi-weekly reports.
There’s virtually one per ministry interested in it. There’s one for MOEA, actually two for MOEA, one for MOE, and one for MOST, but the MOST one works with the NDC.
Right, there is that. It is called Taiwania Capital Management. Which is, I think, AI and IoT-focused at this point but they may do some AVR as well.
There are many such plans. I’m not sure which one you’re referring to.
Mm-hmm.
That would be business between the private sector and the city government. It wouldn’t be a national level investment. That’s two different levels.
Right. Even if the national government doesn’t have exactly a corresponding plan, perhaps the regional governments do. If the regional governments see that it is important, like the Kaohsiung city did, to have AVR industry as its local cluster, then it will have the sufficient land and planning in that ...
The other possibility would be regional governments, where you mention that you’ve been approaching. I think, in our last meeting, you mentioned Taichung, Taoyuan, and Kaohsiung, something like that.
Taiwan does have a very vibrant alternate schooling system in the K-12 and private universities above K-12, so that is one venue. I’m not very well connected to that private university scene but it is a possibility.
In addition to the K-12 curriculum, there are also experimental schools.
It had to be designed in a social way, in the sense that five or six children interacting with a single object, settings like that. For K-12, I’m not aware of anything specific like the thing you offer here, in the K-12 curriculum that’s taking effect about a year and ...
Exactly.
For K-12, there are KPIs around digital and media literacy in K-12 curriculum but it’s not strictly vocational in the way that you displayed it. It’s more about...
If you do want to work directly with universities, it will have either to be private universities, or you will have to find yourself a way into fulfilling some specific Ministry of Education goals, which I’m not aware of anything corresponding to your plan, at this moment.
In Taiwan, public universities are not companies, in the strict sense. They are more like units in the Ministry of Education.
The contents are still going to be useful.
Like three or five years in the future.
Yes.
They shouldn’t be finding any details on the parts that my eyes are not looking but it’s not detailed enough in the parts that I actually look, which my eyes focused on and things like that.
Exactly. At some point, in the office next door, they’ve got all the VR devices and there’s an uncanny valley, like a period where the VR/AR gets almost good enough but not quite. Then, it does create a jarring experience for people who spend extended time in it because it’s ...
If we use that for communication, then it’s not actually represented in the other side. It’s mostly extrapolated...
Then I do worry about the current generation of VR/AR devices because it requires a lot of extrapolation to the person in the environment for their brains to fill in because the device doesn’t really know where my eyes are looking and the device doesn’t really capture my minor expressions.
One thing with your Human 2.0 vision, I think what your vision distinguishes between the Matrix-like scenario is that it enables humans to still feel useful in a society and focus people’s attention on each other instead of through some fake intermediaries, right? That was the main idea?
That’s exactly right because you are imagining 30-years of innovation.
Do you actually work with a neural lace lab?
No, it all makes perfect sense. Do you have a neural lace lab?
It would be challenging.
Really?
We can create the future. We don’t have to predict it.
HoloLens?
Environmental annotations.
We got a demo last time.
That’s OK.
Well then it’s not really gaze-controlled.
Not my eyeballs?
I have to move my head?
Sure.
It’s a phone?
What is this?
[laughs]
Everybody.
Perhaps we’re getting there. [laughs]
You don’t think social media is a dignified purpose within life?
It’s fine for me.
Of course.
Very good to see you again.