That’s good.
You must be in contact with Pier Andrews and people like that, then, from New Zealand?
Oh, really? That’s really interesting.
Still not working, the translation [inaudible 12:16] .
Is that through vTaiwan, then?
You’ve all put a lot of...
We’ve had Andrew Greenway from Public Digital has actual written for us in the past, and knows all about this. He released a book recently which was based on it.
We’ve written about delivery, yeah.
With the innovation labs, have we touched on...
That’s really interesting. I imagine, it seems to be a problem that everybody is dealing with at the same time, which makes it so good to have people working on the same problem in every conceivable environment, which is great.
Is that emerging with you now, then? Have you found that this delivery issue, has that come up as you’ve tried to build services for people? Are you challenged now?
[inaudible 7:31] people like that.
That could be interesting, because the UK civil servants in particular are very focused on focused on delivery, I find. That’s making the strategy itself the delivery. I think that could be an interesting way they could contribute.
To delivery, yeah.
That would be really good, yeah.
How to show that what reforms you’ve put in place are having an effect that they’re supposed to be having, then. Is that the...?
