I could keep talking to you for a long time. Very, very interesting. Thank you so much for your time.

That’s interesting. OK, great. Thank you.

Great. Do you see any risks in the effort to curb disinformation, or how does Taiwan try to navigate the need to curb harmful information or disinformation with an open society and a democratic society, and make sure that that isn’t misused, that these tools aren’t misused or manipulated somehow?

That’s great. I want to have a little time to take a picture, if possible.

How are we doing on time? I know you have…

Wow, interesting. Could you talk about cooperation with US companies in particular? There have been some publicized examples of Facebook, I believe, getting involved. Can you talk about how the major social media companies, what you think is working well, what more needs to be done for them to assist ...

The US one? OK. Great. If you could say, what are some of the Taiwanese cybersecurity companies you consider the most important?

Wow. Now, the Global Engagement Center, that’s the US entity, or the…?

Because of that, similarly, are other countries coming to learn from Taiwan?

…the greatest recipient of these attacks. Do you believe that’s the case in terms of what you’ve learned about what other countries are facing that Taiwan is, in fact, the number one entity being attacked?

…yeah, is considered the…

People have cited a ranking that shows that, by a Swedish entity, that shows that Taiwan…

Do you think that that was essentially effective this year? It was quite the quarantining.

Then what kind of disinformation do you consider the most dangerous threat for Taiwan, and do you…Somewhat separate question, but whereas it seems that, in the 2018 elections, it did have an impact, do you think it did in this election, this recent election?

Do you believe that Taiwan needs a foreign agent registration act similar to that in the US? My understand is that has been brought up for debate here, but it hasn’t happened. Is that an important part of this?

How would something like the anti-infiltration law fit into that overarching strategy?

Then on to the other topic of the disinformation issue, sort of segueing from that. I believe you may have said his previously, that when a place like Taiwan faces maybe 30 billion cyber attacks a month, or that figure has been thrown around, there’s really no way to exactly ...

Interesting. What was the Seattle company you mentioned?

That does lead me to another question. Do you think that this type of program is actually going to be essential when there’s so much discussion of the decline of democracy to its revitalization? As a corollary to that question, the issue of political polarization that have encumbered so many ...

Internationally, which other countries would you say are up there in terms of really leading in this area?

It’s not something that I am terribly familiar with the processes going on elsewhere. If so, how can you encourage the adoption of these types of experiments elsewhere in other countries?

Would you say that Taiwan is clearly a leader in this type of experimentation in the world?

Wow. That’s amazing. You mentioned early on that there were some similarities between this effort and others in Germany or the United States.

You maybe gave an example of how to break through that with the trophy, but could you explain to what extent you feel there is that pushback? Or do you feel like it’s really unfolding quite smoothly?

That’s interesting, which reminds me of one other question. This very radical form of receiving input and collaboration may have some bureaucratic pushback. Are you possibly, based on traditional ways that governments operate, is that something that is occurring?

Any other examples of something that you were just again very excited about?

Water Box?

Wow. What are the innovations that have come out of this, if you could name a few that have surprised you the most, or you’ve been the most excited about?

Fantastic. You’re well prepared to speak about that. How is it going? What is working well? What would you consider some of the stronger accomplishments of it, to date? Then, where do you hope to expand maybe in the coming year?

I’d love to hear more about your efforts in Taiwan to crowdsource democracy and create a more responsive government. I’ve read about the Presidential Hackathon.