…hopefully, this is a long term engagement. Good to know that we have the resources here.

There for like the extended well beyond 2021…

What I mean, if we can just align our activities and while we bring our people to Taiwan, and then if there is a group of US ambassadors already in country, it would be a great chance to have that exchange before the event.

…they can probably meet in Taiwan before they head out for their mission, because this year there are a lot of uncertainty and I think MOFA is not really decided yet as to when or how to conduct or to assemble this year’s youth ambassadors.

Youth ambassador.

No. Thank you. That’s very informative and also to give us a sense as to how we should structure our future events, future programs. Moving forward, definitely, we’ll have to promote the civic community here, trying to connect local communities with our network. That is something that we would like ...

I’m wondering if you or your office is also doing something to prepare for the future possible doubts or disinformation that’s going to spread around the COVID vaccine rollout.

When the vaccine is widely available in Taiwan, at least we have the system in place to facilitate the rollout. I was just thinking because not just this COVID vaccine but in previous flu shots. We also faced some, I would say probably not disinformation but doubts as to, “Are ...

To complain?

I wonder, do the other thing is possible or it has something to do with the fact that the way Taiwanese people access information or how we would like to process information through visual form, through digital forms?

It’s not just the photo. Sometimes there’s also some really cute drawing and cute memes. Sometimes it’s just better to get the message across by sharing this memes instead of going through a long reasoning process or going through a debate.

CEO Shiba Inu.

Everything we’ve got…trying to wear a pink…

That is so cute.

That was tissue paper panic buying.

I remember I saw that. I personally saw that.

Yeah.

These experiences would be a very good opportunity for our youth fellows to learn and also to interact with the key stakeholders here.

That’s why we’re trying right now to identify a few themes, so that every time their visit can be more systematic. Civic tech would probably be a core theme of one of their visits. It makes sense to bring people to Taiwan, especially, Taiwan is actually advancing on those issues ...

Yes.

We have a few, of course, the idea is to bring the same cohort to come to Taipei every four to five months because we want to have a longer engagement.

It’s going to be super hectic. [laughs]

That’s great if we can align those events, so our cohort can have the best of Taiwan in one go.

I understand the open parliament forum and MOFA is working on with LY. They’re also planning it towards the end of the year, possibly in December. It’d be great if we can align some of our events with events going on here, for example, we can bring our youth participants ...

It probably happens, I can imagine. Our holiday season is going to be canceled this year if we can actually fly. [laughs]

We made a few calls with different government offices and interests to introduce our program this year and then everyone said, “Oh, we also have something scheduled for December. We’ll also have something toward the end of the year.”

COVID-free travel.

We would like to be part of the process and also support the exchange between the IRM team here and also our board of experts within our own global network. We’re excited to be part of that process.

That’s great. We just attended the OMSF meeting this morning with the whole lot and it was exciting. They are already talking about ways to structure a task force to conduct the mid term review, and also the IRM report and they’re hoping to conduct the review and the report ...

Maybe there’s another press launch, then the plan…

Good to know.

Interesting. We’re very excited to see the launch of the first time ever Open Government National Action Plan.

If they are tied together, we’re going to have a 12 hour, 14 hour long voting and counting process again. If you remember last time, it was painful day for some.

I understand there are also some legislative efforts going on this year to amend the election and recall laws to, in a way, prohibit any advertisement sponsorship from foreign entities.

Looking ahead, the next election is coming up in less than two years, in 2022. The discussion will be around how we tackle disinformation and also how we make sure the election is run without interference from false advertisement, from a harmful disinformation.

No, I wasn’t. I just came back last December from Myanmar, from my previous assignment, but I’m from Taiwan. I did watch the news very actively on that day. I had some friends who are very engaged in the process. We went to all the events, and then…I understand, especially ...