In Taiwan, we spent 10 years building this solidarity. I see a very similar dynamic back then when I visited Paris in 2016. As long as we keep on such a route, bringing as alliances, civil society, civic tech to the career public service and vice versa, so not just fellows into the government, maybe also fellows into the civil society organizations, as long as we keep this kind of conversation going, I think it’s definitely on the right level, on the level of plurality.

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