Bye-bye.

Me, too. Congratulation for everything you do. I’ve been watching…I wanted to join the webinar last time, but they said it was canceled.

I’ve taken too much of your time.

Yeah, exactly. Great.

No problem.

No problem. I’ll do that. I will send you today the PowerPoint, and then also send you some information about the ambassadorship.

We found a creative director in Japan, because she’s now writing a storyboard for a way to get the “Keep Going” as a keybook. I will send about the presentation. It’s really good. I really think that if I can have either manufactured it in Taiwan, it’d be a very ...

Yeah, crowdfunding. Because we already have done that, we want to start a Kickstarter. Hopefully around May time, we want to do a Kickstarter to start attracting people into…

When I was thinking two days ago with my boat, because I was in Japan after that. What I saw in Taiwan, I thought that if we want to make it successful, we need to do it there.

I think it’s going to be one of the greatest product right now missing in the world, because girls all around the world and boys in refugee camps, in slums, in favelas, I believe sincerely that they can use it. I’ve been working on it for five years now. I ...

Basically, we’re looking actually for someone to help us find a designer, either in the UK, either in Taiwan, and then manufacturing person. Basically, we are now looking for funding to get all of the content into the hardware. We’ll have offline and online activities. The lawyers right now are ...

Yeah, manufacture alternate design. We already have a mock-up. I think when I went to the National Institute in Taiwan, they were willing to…I also contacted Acer. I can send you the PowerPoint after our call, so you can have a look.

Also, just the last point, we also created a mentoring platform where people all around the world are mentoring the girls. We match a mentor like you and a mentee, so they work together. This week, we are having a webinar with a big company. They want to start mentoring ...

What we’re looking for right now for the well-being is we would like to digitalize the lesson plans. We have lesson plans for teachers, also lesson plans for train the trainers to make sure that the well-being club is global, because I think post-pandemic, mental health and well-being of people ...

The third point is, throughout the three years, we’ve been thinking about the well-being of the girls. We created a well-being club, now in seven countries. UNHCR is a partner with this. We’re looking at the well-being of the girls, their body, their mental health, and all of that. We ...

When I was in Taiwan, I saw some alternatives that we can also use. I really would like to share with you the product we’re trying to design to see if we can find partners in Taiwan to help us with some of the work we are looking to do. ...

We decided to develop our own keybook. What we need right now is a hardware. Usually, we use the Raspberry Pi. I can show you, the Raspberry Pi, that’s our main hardware. We use this Raspberry Pi usually for the content.

They want to use the iamtheCODE content to get the marginalized girls to learn how to code, but also to do other activities. For the last couple of weeks, I’ve been having a lot of conversation about UNESCO, about many organizations, asking us to find a way to digitalize our ...

That’s fantastic. I will do that. The second point is, when I was in Taiwan, I’ve been thinking about developing our product. We now have made a lot of progress on developing our own hardware. Because we would like to add a lot of…One of the problem we have since ...

That’s fine.

Because of the connectivity in the camp, there are many partners working with us. Like I said, I just thought that we nominate you as an ambassador. I hope you can accept it. [laughs] I don’t need an answer now, but I hope you can…

We have lots of girls there. They’re amazing. They’re fantastic. They’re refugees from South Sudan, from Burundi, from Kinshasa, doing amazing work. Really amazing girls. I was just there in March before the lockdown. They are really amazing girls that I think they need to be under your radar, because ...

We’ve been really looking high-level people like you, who really understand diversity, understand Africa, but also pioneers in getting the tech ecosystem globally more clean and lean. [laughs] I just thought that you are the best person to maybe post-pandemic, you can come and visit Kakuma, visit the refugees.

It’s really very good. I just thought that we’d like to nominate you as an ambassador for iamtheCODE. It doesn’t entail too much, but to have voices like you represented through our organization. We have many, many people.

I was very impressed with your work. I’ve been watching lately all the work you’ve been doing with the coronavirus. This mission is really great.

Now, we have dissolved the board we have before, to now have honorary ambassadors. We’re trying to find key individuals that we would like them to join the organization. I was very impressed when I met you in New York. [laughs]

I’ve been traveling across the world to meet many girls. Recently, I’ve been working in refugee camps in Kenya, mainly in Dadaab. We have a lot of activities happening in Dadaab also in Kenya. We’re becoming a charity now. We’ve moved from a CIC to a charity.

Great. I just give you a little bit about our progress and what we’ve been doing so far with iamtheCODE. So far, we have made better progress since I met you. We’re now in around 68 countries. The girls have been coding. We now have around 18,000 girls around the ...

I’m just going to put agenda here. I just wanted to say hello and just touch base again, give a little bit of feedback about iamtheCODE. I already sent the agenda to your assistant.

I’m sorry for the delay. I’ve been trying to find a way to…

Thank you. [laughs]

No, I agree. That’s great.

I think Taiwan is very, very well-positioned to have a footstep in the continent, because the relationship China has with Africa is not what China could have. It will not be a conflict of interest. For us, it’s mainly if the African government can look into the technology you guys ...

I think this could be a great partnership. I think it could be a very good example for an Africa tech ecosystem to show them that they need to get out of their comfort zone to learn from...

They’re very nice people. I think they are doing amazing work, but when we went to do the SDGs in Taiwan, they were very impressed with us. If you can talk to them, by all means.

We want to partner with Taiwan on the tech side. I’ll be very proud to have some of our solution designed with Taiwanese investment. I’ll be personally happy with that.

You need to be careful on that. Those are my advice. For us, we’re happy to partner with you as soon as possible. Like I said to you, we would like to double up our curriculum. Anything you can help us with, we’re ready to work with you.

You lose money.

Unfortunately, there are some occasions where African government sign a partnership with a Chinese organization, and then if they hear Japan or Taiwan or Malaysia is getting involved, they give up the deal.

Always try to find an organization that is independent thinking, they can do their own thing. Sign NDA and MOU always before. Make sure that everything is clear before.

My advice is to always have a partner who is non-governmental, not just NGOs, but some of the NGOs are partner with government. The reason why people are partners with us because we’re not scared in saying no to government.

They all have projects like this they’re working on, or they want but sometimes the just don’t have an example, a very simple example, not too much, not too expensive to do it. Usually it’s just big ideas and they don’t have...If you can come in, if Taiwan and yourself ...

The ideation is there, the wishes are there, they all want to do something big. The Rwandese government for example, they want to digitalize all the birth certificate. I helped the Mozambican government with e-government solutions.

The technology, that’s what Africa need now. That will give you a door to be part of the conversation and help them design solutions because they’re very desperate. We have innovation in the continent. Slow innovations are starting up, but mainly, like I said, the processes are always a struggle.

My advice is, wherever you go and meet African minister, focus on the technology you can bring, not on the relationship of Africa and Taiwan.

I think they will love to...My advice is always to find a way of having a conversation between yourself as a minister. That’s probably best conversation, and then talk about tech.

They’re always sharing the examples of iamtheCODE, so she’s also now the lady to...She used to head the World Trade Organization, Amina Mohammed, and then she was the Foreign Affairs Minister. Now she moved to becoming the Minister of Education in Kenya. Brilliant woman.

She’s also a brilliant woman, and so they all like iamtheCODE. They try to help us raise funding and get the conversation going.

Cina Lawson, she’s brilliant, from Togo. I think she will like this because she’s very well respected now by the president because she’s very transparent and very tough woman. Also, the minister of education in Kenya. Have you met her yet? Amina Mohammed?

You’ll be leaving tonight. That’s fantastic. I think there are ways of working together. I’m happy to make intros for them to know that there’s another side of the conversation.